Weight loss expert Dr. Jonny Bowden, PhD, CNS. Bowden, known as “The Rogue Nutritionist,” holds a master’s degree in psychology and has written nine books on health, healing, food, and longevity, including two bestsellers – The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth and Living Low Carb. He doesn’t pull punches when it comes to raging against the machine of conventional wisdom in the health and nutrition field. At least, he didn’t in our interview with him.

“My book The Great Cholesterol Myth is all about how dietary recommendations over the past 30 years to lower animal fat, reduce saturated fat, and stock up on grains and high-carbohydrate foods is all bulls**t,” Bowden says. “There are so many misconceptions about what we need to do to get lean and healthy, about what we should or shouldn’t be eating, that I never take it at face value when someone says that they ‘eat healthy.’ People are clueless.”

In that spirit, Bowden dropped a few lesser-known — and sometimes unconventional — approaches to getting lean.