Eight years after his last game in the NFL, Terrell Owens still makes headlines. Just a few days after he declared he was going to skip his own Pro Football Hall of Fame induction out of a frustration with being snubbed by voters in his first two years of eligibility, the wide receiver called M&F from the beach in Los Angeles. Owens, 44, is no stranger to controversy. He’s also no stranger to working out, and he’s still in elite shape—it’s a key part of his identity. We talked to him about his career, his gym routine, and the possibility of making an NFL comeback.